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		<title>By: K104Ever</title>
		<link>http://www.pressandtower.com/2009/05/not-a-merger-but-a-massacre/comment-page-1/#comment-6975</link>
		<dc:creator>K104Ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really too bad. I tend to watch Newswatch over the others any time, especially 12 News. 

Raychel &amp; Ray are the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really too bad. I tend to watch Newswatch over the others any time, especially 12 News. </p>
<p>Raychel &amp; Ray are the best.</p>
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		<title>By: legend</title>
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		<dc:creator>legend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks,

I love the city of Erie as much as anyone.  I&#039;ve been gone for quite awhile, but let&#039;s get real here.  The broadcast industry is downsizing in every way.  I do not believe it&#039;s for the better, but it is what&#039;s happening.  And truthfully, as a past-president of a NABET local, there&#039;s not a whole lot the union can do about management cutting staff.

One man bands are here, again, I don&#039;t believe for the better.  But if the Washington, DC market is doing it, or Orlando, why not a smaller market like Erie ?  You had better believe that automation is on the horizon.

I just hope that the Erie market can maintain its independence from Pittsburgh, Buffalo or Cleveland.  The broadcast industry is in complete flux right now, and it&#039;s nationwide.  Lilly certainly isn&#039;t the greatest owner, but far from the worst.  

It&#039;s a tough, tough time in the business right now.  Bad things are happening to good people all across the country.  Sad to say, but it is something that will continue to happen for sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks,</p>
<p>I love the city of Erie as much as anyone.  I&#8217;ve been gone for quite awhile, but let&#8217;s get real here.  The broadcast industry is downsizing in every way.  I do not believe it&#8217;s for the better, but it is what&#8217;s happening.  And truthfully, as a past-president of a NABET local, there&#8217;s not a whole lot the union can do about management cutting staff.</p>
<p>One man bands are here, again, I don&#8217;t believe for the better.  But if the Washington, DC market is doing it, or Orlando, why not a smaller market like Erie ?  You had better believe that automation is on the horizon.</p>
<p>I just hope that the Erie market can maintain its independence from Pittsburgh, Buffalo or Cleveland.  The broadcast industry is in complete flux right now, and it&#8217;s nationwide.  Lilly certainly isn&#8217;t the greatest owner, but far from the worst.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough, tough time in the business right now.  Bad things are happening to good people all across the country.  Sad to say, but it is something that will continue to happen for sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: Heavy D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heavy D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t Lilly&#039;s doing so much as it is a market phenomenon. The old broadcast/print media is getting creamed by the internet. Look at the New York Times, Time magazine, MSNBC and radio. I think Lillys&#039; being smart, like GE with it&#039;s 1500 person layoff. 

Dramatic action to end the slow bleed. Advertising is usually the first thing companies cut when trying to save money. And since every company ( just about) is hurting in this economy they are all cutting back. 

Yes it sucks, but it might be the right decision to keep the stations in business. For all who think Lilly should sell just think what the new company would have to do to get a return on their investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t Lilly&#8217;s doing so much as it is a market phenomenon. The old broadcast/print media is getting creamed by the internet. Look at the New York Times, Time magazine, MSNBC and radio. I think Lillys&#8217; being smart, like GE with it&#8217;s 1500 person layoff. </p>
<p>Dramatic action to end the slow bleed. Advertising is usually the first thing companies cut when trying to save money. And since every company ( just about) is hurting in this economy they are all cutting back. </p>
<p>Yes it sucks, but it might be the right decision to keep the stations in business. For all who think Lilly should sell just think what the new company would have to do to get a return on their investment.</p>
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		<title>By: PR</title>
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		<dc:creator>PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 06:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was always under the belief that the union had to involved when there were staff cuts, downsizing, etc.  From the sound of this NABET was kept in the dark until it happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was always under the belief that the union had to involved when there were staff cuts, downsizing, etc.  From the sound of this NABET was kept in the dark until it happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would argue that NABET is not impotent (dripping with sarcasm) - all the Regional NABET Reps still have their jobs!  Why should they care about the grunts at 35 and 12?

It would be nice if the laid off employees asked the NABET Union for their dues back?  

You are correct about one thing, TV News Fan...Brian Lilly did the impossible - he destroyed the once mighty local NABET Union at WSEE.  He is probably going to try and destroy the Union at WICU as well.

I can only hope the Regional NABET Reps grow a spine, and quick! Wait! too late WSEE is gone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would argue that NABET is not impotent (dripping with sarcasm) &#8211; all the Regional NABET Reps still have their jobs!  Why should they care about the grunts at 35 and 12?</p>
<p>It would be nice if the laid off employees asked the NABET Union for their dues back?  </p>
<p>You are correct about one thing, TV News Fan&#8230;Brian Lilly did the impossible &#8211; he destroyed the once mighty local NABET Union at WSEE.  He is probably going to try and destroy the Union at WICU as well.</p>
<p>I can only hope the Regional NABET Reps grow a spine, and quick! Wait! too late WSEE is gone!</p>
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		<title>By: TV News Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>TV News Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the union protection at 35?

I think NABET and it&#039;s local reps should be ashamed..and 35 union members feel hoodwinked.

Paying union dues all those years, and for what?  Where&#039;s the union when you need them?  What did it do for the members at 35?  The station isn&#039;t closing, nobody&#039;s going bankrupt?  Where&#039;s the protection??

Should be a warning to all those still paying dues to NABET at any station.  You might as well be throwing your hard earned $$ down a deep dark hole...

Apparently Lilly proved a union can mean nothing.  NABET seems pretty well busted at 35.  Right?

Now watch, they&#039;ll try to get the folks at 12 who operate as one-man-bands to be in TWO unions, pay TWO dues, and get a double helping of nothing in return.
Two times nuttin&#039; is nuttin!

It seems the only thing Lilly will honor is a PSC...a contract apparently way more meaningful than a union contract....minus the dues payment.

I&#039;ve experienced the gutlessness of AFTRA...but NABET is just as impotent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the union protection at 35?</p>
<p>I think NABET and it&#8217;s local reps should be ashamed..and 35 union members feel hoodwinked.</p>
<p>Paying union dues all those years, and for what?  Where&#8217;s the union when you need them?  What did it do for the members at 35?  The station isn&#8217;t closing, nobody&#8217;s going bankrupt?  Where&#8217;s the protection??</p>
<p>Should be a warning to all those still paying dues to NABET at any station.  You might as well be throwing your hard earned $$ down a deep dark hole&#8230;</p>
<p>Apparently Lilly proved a union can mean nothing.  NABET seems pretty well busted at 35.  Right?</p>
<p>Now watch, they&#8217;ll try to get the folks at 12 who operate as one-man-bands to be in TWO unions, pay TWO dues, and get a double helping of nothing in return.<br />
Two times nuttin&#8217; is nuttin!</p>
<p>It seems the only thing Lilly will honor is a PSC&#8230;a contract apparently way more meaningful than a union contract&#8230;.minus the dues payment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve experienced the gutlessness of AFTRA&#8230;but NABET is just as impotent.</p>
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		<title>By: Can't say...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Can't say...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 16:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, on paper 35 may bring in less cash - but THEY started the Carribean weather forecasts. THEY were handed the California show and pulled it off somewhat succesfully. and what thanks do THEY get?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, on paper 35 may bring in less cash &#8211; but THEY started the Carribean weather forecasts. THEY were handed the California show and pulled it off somewhat succesfully. and what thanks do THEY get?</p>
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